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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Dog 'ASBO's in the news again Reply with quote

Dog ASBO's are all over the news today........compulsory micro chipping, mandatory third party insurance etc. all being pushed through Parliament more quickly......

What are your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read the story,
apparently the insurance will only be compulsory in england and wales just now. I did read where they started talking about how there is the concern about the people who have dogs for status and to intimidate people so i think they are basically saying they want to make the laws tougher for everyone including all of us because of the few who dont bother with there dogs.

Also what do you think will happen? the police will stop you in the street and ask to see your insurance for the dog?

Seems there are a few things more important in the country just now than this you would think. im sure there are plenty more knife and gun crimes than dogs attacking people, although im not saying it does not happen.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i saw this john.......i am very much in favour of microchipping and i do believe owners should have insurance for their dog/dogs.......i also think it should be made compulsory that all dog owners whether it be from a new puppy or a rescue should attend some form of training!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the things required need the government to spend money which they won't so they just put the onus back on to people like us who do take dog ownership and training seriously.

I do think, though, that micro-chipping and insurance should be mandatory because they protect the dog as much as anyone else. But it won't stop morons doing what they do now, they don't insure their cars and they're far more lethal, so they won't insure their dogs. So stronger sentencing for people who abuse dogs in this way.

I would also make it harder to get a dog. Some sort of breeder registration scheme that would get rid of puppy farms as is done in other countries. Good breeders and rehoming centres don't just let anyone take their dogs and make sure you are aware of what you are taking on.

Plus more information about dog breeds and what dogs need.

But sadly, numpties who own 'status dogs' and don't appreciate them would just ignore all of that and breed dogs among themselves. But a bit more scrutiny and stronger punishment might make them think twice.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true,

Insurance should be taken out by everyone,

especially in the way that it will cover vet bills, as you can have a big bill even just for small things.

When Ollie was sick a few weeks ago the Vet gave her a jag to calm her tummy and that cost us £35.

But i think you can usually tell even when your walking your dogs the ones that are out to show off.

Micro chipping is good, if they stay in haha. We found out Ollies has somehow come out so need to get that done again.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PAY A YEARLY DOG LICENCE FOR MY DOGS AND THE IDEA OF HAVING A NEW TAG EACH YEAR THE WAY YOU TAX YOUR CAR WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.......HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE DONE WITH THE MONEY .........MORE PARK FACILITIES ETC .


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The dog license tag might be one of several dog tags worn.A dog licence (or dog license) is required in some jurisdictions to be the keeper of a dog. Usually a dog-licence identifying number is issued to the owner, along with a dog tag bearing the identifier and a contact number for the registering organization. If a stray pet is found with the tag, a rescuer can call the registering organization to get current contact information for the dog's owner.

Licensing a dog might require additional actions on the owner's part, such as ensuring that the dog has a current rabies vaccination. In many jurisdictions a fee, which is usually small, must be paid. Licences typically must be renewed annually or after some small number of years.

[edit] Licensing information worldwide
Great Britain
Dog licensing was abolished in 1987. Prior to this dog licences were mandatory, but the requirement was widely ignored, with only about half of owners having one. The final rate for a dog licence was 37 pence, reduced from 37½p when the halfpenny was withdrawn in 1984. This figure was an exact conversion from 7/6 (seven shillings and sixpence) on decimalisation in 1971. The revenue went to local authorities.
Northern Ireland
Dog licences are required under the Dogs (Northern Ireland) Order 1983, and as of 2009[update] cost £5.00 / year, or £2.50 for pensioners.
Ireland
Dog licences are required and as of 2009[update] cost €12.70 / year, with a general licence allowing unlimited dogs on one premises at €253.94.
Germany
Dog ownership is regulated by a "dog tax" as opposed to a dog licence, with the amount due depending on the breed of the dog: dogs deemed "dangerous", such as Rottweilers, are subject to higher tax.
United States
Most states, municipalities, or other jurisdictions require dog licences along with rabies vaccination, and the licence duration cannot exceed the time the vaccine is effective. As a way of preventing the overpopulation of animals, some jurisdictions charge a significantly lower licensing fee if the owner presents veterinary proof that their pet has been spayed or neutered.
California and Maryland also have some areas where cat licences are required. [1] [2]
Canada
Dog licences are required.
Australia
Dog licences are mandated by state and territory legislation but are issued by local governments (e.g., city or shire councils).[3] Hence the cost of a licence and the format of the licence tag vary across the country. Some areas, such as Victoria, require cat registration and microchipping also. [4]
New Zealand
Under the Dog Control Act 1996 all dogs over 3 months in age are required to be registered with the city or district council the dog usually resides in. As a prerequisite, all dogs classified as dangerous or menacing, and all dogs first registered in New Zealand after 1 July 2006 must be microchipped before they can be registered.
All dog registrations expire yearly on 30 June, and must be renewed by 31 July. Fees for registration differ between councils, and also differ according to factors such as whether the dog is neutered, living in an urban or rural area, classed as dangerous or menacing, and whether the owner is a responsible dog owner. Fees for working dogs (herding dogs, police dogs, drug dogs, etc.) are generally lower than pets, and seeing-eye or hearing-ear dogs are generally free or minimal cost to register.
Isle of Man
Dog licences are required.

ALSOOS FOUND THIS http://www.ballymoney.gov.uk/Dog_Licensing.aspx........I FOUND THIS INTERESTING READING.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in favour of new laws dealing with individual dogs rather than whole breeds. I see it's going to extend the laws to cover private property and not just in public that ur dog must b under control.

I think it's better than the previous suggestion based on forcing entire breeds to b on lead and muzzled at all times. Again tho I think the problems going to b enforcing the laws. I doubt it will change much. After all they banned pitbulls but I couldn't count the number I've seen either in street or at work....all nice dogs tho got to say! which is why I think it should be dog and not breed dependant!!
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