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John Thomson Site Admin
Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 4780 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Nicola,
dog 'see' the world by scent first and foremost.....and they are supposed to live in the now...but mt two have long memories...........if they smell a dog they don't like then they remember ! _________________ John Thomson
www.cumbernaulddogtraining.co.uk |
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Nicola Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I know what you mean John. Molly takes mad notions where she pretends she's scared of old, almost infirm dogs who couldn't do a thing to harm her....We meet a yellow lab regularly who is 13 years old. This dog and his owner walk religiously every day, come hail, rain or snow, and we have met them several times. The dog just walks along slowly, wagging her tail, not making a sound and always stops for a pat before she moves on again.....Molly decides, on occasions, that she's frightened of Skye. When Molly spots her, she stops, watches, "wuffs" and grumbles, her tail is down. Then as the Skye approaches, Molly swerves her then runs by her I just walk on and leave her, she soon comes running to me.
Now, this dog has never said or done a thing to her, nor has she had any bad experience with labs, she's just likes to make a drama of things sometimes. I don't humour her though.
Certain dog trainers maintain that dogs live for the moment and don't hold grudges......I don't believe that at all! They are more forgiving than us humans though, but they definately do remember things they dislike! |
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Karen Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly dont know anything about this Nicola, but interesting to read about, this is one of the best bits about the forum learning more about dogs,,, |
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Karen Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nicola was speaking about not understanding help with firework fear, not memory comments just incase I confused you and John |
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marcella Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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you've confused us all Karen! |
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sharon Newbie
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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We have used that in work and have found it quite good and the Behaviorist that works here also promotes it in certain cases. We also use the cat form as well for those who have cats. |
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marcella Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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think it would work on humans or would it turn John into a mummy's boy?
It's something I have never comes across before but I'd perhaps give it a go if I had a problem and thought it could help one of my beastie boys. Since it is a non invasive 'treatment', you wouldn't have anything to lose by trying this. |
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marcella Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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sharon wrote: |
We have used that in work and have found it quite good and the Behaviorist that works here also promotes it in certain cases. We also use the cat form as well for those who have cats. |
what kind of cases, would it work for separation anxiety? |
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shirley c I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 4527 Location: Airdrie
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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I think it does work for some with separation anxiety as a lot of the American folk on the greyhound board im on have used it, again it has had mixed results, some dogs are better some no change, though I think you have to use other stuff to go along with it, like slowly leaving the dog alone, going to another room without it following you, behavioural stuff like that.
With 4 dogs we have been lucky enough not to come across it just buy another dog thats my philosophy
Mums beware when you say to your children, no you cant have a dog, when you have a house of your own you can have all the animals you want, like both mines and Allans mums said to us _________________ lurchers Pixel and Zev and whippet, Fen
3 cats, Greebo, Yu and Lexx - 2 ferrets and Dales pony Jazz and adopted pony, April |
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kirsty I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 2712 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Nicola, I know dogs are supposed to 'live in the now' but they definitely remember bad experiences. Dodge freaks out if you touch him with your feet. He sits at the side of my couch and if I have my feet up, bring them down and brush him - he jumps up and growls and can snap. It is an instinctive reaction, he is momentarily terrified, his eyes go wild. I think he must have been severely kicked in the past.
Also like you, I had experience of him having a serious go at a particular dog last week. They do not like each other.
Don't know much about the D.A.P |
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marcella Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I'm convinced they remember things! In particular bad experiences. |
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Nicola Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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marcella wrote: |
I'm convinced they remember things! In particular bad experiences. |
Oh, i'm sure they do.
Now, who was it that they said live for the day and don't hold grudges.....Hmm...You know, it could have been Jan Fennell.
My dogs definately remember things!!! |
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Nicola Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: |
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kirsty wrote: |
Nicola, I know dogs are supposed to 'live in the now' but they definitely remember bad experiences. Dodge freaks out if you touch him with your feet. He sits at the side of my couch and if I have my feet up, bring them down and brush him - he jumps up and growls and can snap. It is an instinctive reaction, he is momentarily terrified, his eyes go wild. I think he must have been severely kicked in the past.
Also like you, I had experience of him having a serious go at a particular dog last week. They do not like each other.
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Poor Dodge, you can understand his reactions completely then. It does sound as if he's been badly treated.
I'm a bit unsure about trying D.A.P with Roxy now as i'm unsure about her start in life, I don't whether she had a bad experience as a newborn puppy.
It may be a lot of rubbish what i'm saying but it's definately something i've been thinking about regarding D.A.P. |
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sharon Newbie
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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The DAP is just a dog pheromone and helps with any stressful situation and fear related problems. It will cause no harmful effects to the dog and you get it in a spray or a plug in for the house. I do think it is a good thing to try but it does not help every dog.
With Roxy I would give it a go it will do her no harm and may help her to be less anxious. |
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Sheryl I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 1028 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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do you think that this could help Keano become a little less up tight??????
(i write this post to anyone whos ever met Keano!!) _________________ Kindest Regards,
PRINCESS Sheryl, Keano and Coby. |
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