To snip or not to snip?

graceb · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: To snip or not to snip?

Due to the problems I have been having with Dexter, I have been contemplating getting him snipped. I don't know if this will make any difference to his problem of aggression towards people or not. Some days I can take him out and about in busy places, and he is fine and the next day he has hackles up and ready to growl, bark at anybody and everybody in the street Evil or Very Mad

if I decide to go ahead it will have to be pretty soon as he is now 8 months. Looking for anybody's experience or thoughts on this subject!
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Ashley · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject:

I think, that as part of responsible pet ownership, unless you are going to be breeding then it is always wise to have your dog neutered or spayed. I maybe just feel this way as it has always been female dogs i have owned.. not sure what its like with males.

You wouldnt be breeding him anyway I imagine if he has "aggression" issues (Im using that term loosely though... Ive not seen him in a wee while) Smile

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Neutering can often calm down said issues, so if you arent going to be breeding him then I think its a good decision. Smile

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linsey · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject:

Hi Grace,

Well I can only speak about my own experiences, and I found that it certainly helped calm Leon down.

Combined with pack order and his training, I really believe that it helped to almost make him a different wee dog.

Before that he showed signs of aggression and would try to defend his toys, basket etc, and was continually pushing his limits in the house, especially with me as he saw me as the main top dog competitor!

I felt bad about it at the time, but I am now so glad that we went through with it. It has made everyones lives happier, including his!

Lx
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Lisa/Colin · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:

Chop them off!!

Hektor is the first male dog I have had that I had neutered. Like you, I agonised over it for a good few months but it is the best thing I ever did. I think he was 8 months old when he was done.

His humping is now reduced to zero (and he used to make Ollies life a misery with it!).
He didnt really show a lot of aggression issues, occaisionally he takes a dislike to another dog (he REALLY doesnt seem to like Koda Confused

who's done nothing) but I feel he's a lot calmer and less likely to get wound up now. I dont think I could cope with a hormonally charged Hektor.

Neutering him, combined with the prong collar and his training really is helping.

Good luck with your decision.

If you neuter him will that affect your showing him?

Ashley · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject:

kendal · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject:

i think you could still do it for fun but i do think it would go against you with the judged, i remember watching crufts on TV and someone rote in about there dog being neutered and they said that the kennel club like you to have a good reason for it, from what i remember anyway.
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Ashley · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject:

kendal · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

well the point of trying to get your dog to win is so that you can make more money from the pup. if a male wins he can be studded out and people will pay good money from what i know for a winner the to cover there bitch. if he has been neutered then the line kind of stops there, you dont get any pup that might be nearly as good as there dad Rolling Eyes

i know some times you do have to wounder why on earth they are in charge Laughing

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graceb · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject:

[quote="Lisa Smith"]Chop them off!!

hehe . When Im at my wits end with him barking, i threaten him with chopping them off! Rolling Eyes

I actually thought that if he was neutered I couldn,t show him! I had hoped to wait untill he was fully grown before decided whether to chop or not, but if I wait till then apparantly it will make no difference to his problems. He doesnt show any aggression for toys or anything, doesnt guard food or toys. Only barks and gos balistic at the window if he hears any slight noise or movement. Usually there is nothing there. Or if someone comes in the house, Thats when he really gets going.
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Allan Campbell · Trainer Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 311 Location: airdrie

if he is neutered you cant show him in any kennel club events ..its in their rules

also neutering may work to calm some dogs down .. but it is very rare that it does so .. training is by far the best option

he is 8 months old .. he is not aggressive he is asserting himself its natural ... think long and hard before you make this decision

again its only my opinion .. but the only reason to neuter any pedigree dog is down to health worries ...like john i have trained dogs for a long time ... neutered or not ... a dog is a dog ..it makes little difference to its temperament except in rare cases
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Megan · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

Isabel · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject:

Alan I always thought that it was a good idea to neuter male dogs if there is any aggression issues as it dramatically reduces their levels of testosterone which is key player????? It made a big difference in keano.

John Thomson · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject:

I have only every had one dog neutered......a rescue GSD who was wired to the moon, hyper was not the word for it.
He was 'done' at around 18 months and it made little difference to him.

I think every dog reacts differently to it......some display a huge difference , some don't. It is less likely to make a big difference in an older dog than a younger one.

A neutered dog ( male or female) is less likely to suffer cancer in later life than an un neutered one particularly in the case of a monorchid dog, one which has an undescended testicle ( this is a genetic problem ans any responsible breeder would not use a monorchid dog at stud)..........
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Allan Campbell · Trainer Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 311 Location: airdrie

megan ... im pretty sure in the standard of all breeds it states there should be two normally descended testicles in all males if im wrong i stand corrected .. Smile

isabel .. im not so sure thats what did it for keano ....sheryl put in a vast amount of work with both him and coby ... i think all credit goes to sheryl for any improvement Smile

as i said it can calm them down .. but it is rare that it does so... i dont believe in altering a dog just for a possible quick fix
that may or may not work ... again its only my opinion .. everyone must do as they think best
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Isabel · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject:



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