Revolting dog!!

[Nicola]

[kirsty]

My two use the cats litter tray as their 'scoobie snack' container

they like to wait until the content is hard, the cat 'does her thing' in the middle of the night, they scoobie snack in the morning.

I'm totally cool with it with the exception of my concerns about it not being part of their 'barf' diet.

[Allan Campbell]

barf.... beef and raw feeds ... ... kirsty ...i believe it is fine as long as it not cooked ...it will qualify
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[Sam]

Hiya folks

I have just waded through the six odd pages o this topic and its quite stunning ! Six pages about a dogs eating poo!!

If i run through the list of the mank things my dogs have eaten in the past, with no ill effect, you would all be green in the face... gros it is.
The thing is we are talking about domesticated dogs here, not wolves and mostly they are opportunist scavengers as we have found. Its lucky that their digestive systems seem to be be able to handle rancid remains of rotting corpses , 50 day old eggs and poo with no real ill effect on them.

Its the nature of the beast i am afraid
It works like this. Foxes poo, is doggie perfume, it is for the rolling in. This makes sure old charlie fox doesn't scent you when you are hunting him on his own territory. You roll in his poo, an he cant smell you, all he can smelll is himself... Always best done when you have your new collar on of course.. and if its raining and mum has to drive you home in the car with the windows shut its much better

Eating poo...well poo is full of all sorts of usefull stuff. All them Greens in sheep poo, its very similar to the stuff you would rip out of a rabbits intestines if you were a dog feeding yourself in the wild. It don't smell so good but its a balanced diet.

Food envy...food envy is what keeps us fed if you are a dog...' Quick lets eat it afor anyone else does'.. those o you with more than one dog will appreciate this.

use full mark out territories...quick, lets eat them strange ones because this is 'MY' terf.

and last but not least...if you feed you dog 'Bakers complete dog food' its a cert that your dog will supplement itself by eating terds.

Nicola...you need to spend more time round dogs and less time on the internet looking up the latest reports and new age fluffy ideas etc.
For you too suggest that any forum members dog is mentally unsound because their dog eats poo given the chance, and does not run back instantly when they are commanded too by their owner is ridiculous.

Dogs an mankind co exist on a need basis,, the relationship was always a mutual one o protection and warmth.
One was never truly the master of the other..an we all have our needs.

I pitty the dog that is not allowed to be a dog, because its owner thinks it cant eat sh*t without being told it can, or that it is has a mental problem if it doesn't respond to your new age dog training.


Sam
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[Enid]

[Nicola]

[quote="Sam"]Nicola...you need to spend more time round dogs and less time on the internet looking up the latest reports and new age fluffy ideas etc.
For you too suggest that any forum members dog is mentally unsound because their dog eats poo given the chance, and does not run back instantly when they are commanded too by their owner is ridiculous.

I pitty the dog that is not allowed to be a dog, because its owner thinks it cant eat sh*t without being told it can, or that it is has a mental problem if it doesn't respond to your new age dog training.[/quote]

Hardly, Sam!

New age "fluffy ideas", eh?

Dog training has advanced dramatically since nineteen canteen, it's not all choke chains and harsh training methods anymore. There are kinder and effective way to do things now. Gone are the Barbara Woodhouse days, i'm afraid, Sam! I work with some of Victoria Stilwell's and Jan Fennell's methods amongst other ways that work for my dogs.

My dogs are allowed to be dogs, believe you me, just because I don't allow my dogs to eat sh!t and other paraphernalia doesn't mean to say my dogs are not allowed to be dogs. Far from it.

Today, my dogs ran around and mingled with several dogs all off lead and they had a ball. They also found a big muddy puddle to play in and got boggin' in the process! So long as they didn't eat it....which, of course, they didn't.

My Westie came 3rd in her obedience class today, we even beat Border Collies and other dogs who compete in obedience, my friend came 1st with her dog. We also done some agility today and have our first big show at SKC this month. I just hope I don't let my Westie down!

So much for my "new age, fluffy ideas".

[marcella]

[John Thomson]

Personally I would never put a choke chain on any of my dogs and would not recommend their use to anyone........I have put one on my leg and yanked it....for research purposes only ........not anything kinky What a bruise leaves where the chain feed through the ring.

I like Jan Fennels views on dog training and really like Cesar Millans ideas on pack order.
I believe there is no one method to train a dog...everything must constantly adapt and evolve.......even down to taking into account your mood, the dogs mood etc
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[Nicola]

[Nicola]

[John Thomson]

Nicola,

some dogs will simply not respond to light pressure on a lead therefore the level of correction should be increased to the minimum level that the dog will respond to.
There is little point in administering a correction that you dog ignores if it then steps out in front of a bus because it ignores you.

When Diesel was younger I did yank him off his feet........Diesels response was to stand up and look at me to say.........is that you best shot? I can take a correction like that all day long..bring it on.

Hence my use of pinch collars.......so now there is no need for me to administer a leash correction...no confrontation and both me and my dogs are happy.....you saw them today and how relaxed they are in the company of other dogs....even when your we Roxy objected to Murphy being near her he responded to a voice command to get out of her personal space.

Any correction, be it voice,leash or other physical correction should be the minimum needed to get the dog to comply.

My own personal interest is in aggressive dominant dogs.......the ones most people would give up on and denounce as a danger only fit to be destroyed.

I know lots of people have a problem with the use of a training collar, an in the perfect world they would never be used however this simply is not a perfect world and I see pinch collars as the most humane way of dealing with dominant dogs....no yanking, no confrontation....given a choice between destroying a dog or using a prong to keep them in line is simply a no brainer to me.

I'm sure we can start to see each others point of view on subjects like this?
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[marcella]

[Nicola]

John,

I do understand where you're coming from, really I do. I still, personally, wouldn't use prong collars and I absolutely hate the things, that is just me. I understand that you won't go out your way to be cruel to your dogs.

My Roxy is a tease...especially with big, male dogs! She has a friend in the park, a big Boxer dog, who she "makes faces" at and screeches at, like she was doing with Diesel yesterday...She wanted a wrestle! They love to wrestle and I always fear i'm going to end up at the vets with Roxy! I'll post a couple of photos of them later.

I suppose we all have the best interests of the dogs at heart, and that's what matters.

[Lindy]

Sam I agree completely with your post. John I'm with you on the prong, I have had to pull dora off her feet to try and correct the pulling and she totaly ignores it and pulls again she is a hard dog and smaks on the bum and corrections seem to not phase her so I need to change my approach, Lizzy on the other hand is a dream, and knows I'm boss and does as she is told, however she is still a pup and as JRT I'm ready for her to become and adult and challenge my authority which she will no doubt do as she is a confident little tike and will wnat to eb boss.